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Old 01-24-2016, 08:58 PM   #41
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Kruger was real dope but fresco went off too crazy. that life barred shit was filthy
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Old 01-24-2016, 10:33 PM   #42
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This is fresco on his A game it's just boring now. He did the exact same style against Thesaurus and it's just too easy to lean on it. Cruger 2-1.
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Fresco had it 2-1, but Cruger's never not good.

In fact, I actually preferred this to his DNA performance.
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Old 01-25-2016, 02:19 AM   #44
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Yeah I went real light on this one but I still voted for myself anyway because I still put several gems in there even if the vibe was weird af
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This is fresco on his A game it's just boring now. He did the exact same style against Thesaurus and it's just too easy to lean on it. Cruger 2-1.
This was actually my C- game , still enough to beat one of the crowd favorites in his own league at his own event in a country that i'm not from though
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Not a big fan of Fresco and a big fan of Cruger, but Fresco did enough to win this. Cruger needs to take more battles, the difference is mostly in how polished Fresco sounds rather than necessarily quality.

For the battle. Fresco got the first by quite a lot, as Cruger was too slow out the gate. Fresco's filler in the first half of his second definitely cost him the second. Then Fresco won the third with the extra energy to power him across the finish line.

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This is fresco on his A game it's just boring now. He did the exact same style against Thesaurus and it's just too easy to lean on it. Cruger 2-1.
this was not even anywhere close to his saurus performance haha
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This was actually my C- game , still enough to beat one of the crowd favorites in his own league at his own event in a country that i'm not from though
Says a lot that a C- from you and a C performance from Cruger still managed to be one of the top 3 battles of the event.
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Says a lot that a C- from you and a C performance from Cruger still managed to be one of the top 3 battles of the event.
didn't help that Cruger edited this and made my mic quiet because i was really barkin on him
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@fresco Tell me you've got a hit list or SOMETHING man. For you to not continue to battle with the caliber of performances you've been giving would be a shame. I don't know what you changed between Ill and Saurus but you must've went and found the "Complete Battler Package"
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@fresco Tell me you've got a hit list or SOMETHING man. For you to not continue to battle with the caliber of performances you've been giving would be a shame. I don't know what you changed between Ill and Saurus but you must've went and found the "Complete Battler Package"
I don't actually... nobody is on my radar because no one is really that good...
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I don't actually... nobody is on my radar because no one is really that good...

Bold statements out here. Nobody eh? Not even just from the KOTD or DF roster? No URL guys you'd like to battle? I've been hearing people call for you vs B Magic and that would be pretty fire IMO (punches aplenty). At your current caliber I feel like you could have a classic with Bigg K as well. Beyond that tho, I guess I can agree with you. If you're battling anyone that doesn't have that "unfuckwithable" status, it may not be worth it
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Relatively underwhelming battle unfortunately. Fresco got all 3 IMO. Audio was poor and the "vibe" of the battle was just off. Nina overseas was fucking phenomenal though.

Fresco needs to battle more people that say they also have guns rather than battle people who tell him he doesn't have guns. He needs to do a battle on the URL or in New York/jersey.
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If he battled magic or hitman holla or arsonal or some shit it would have a whole different (better) feel.

On Kotd and don't flop anymore he seemingly has the battle won before it even starts almost. Like that's kind of the feel beforehand. On URL or UW that same idea wouldn't be there (whether right or wrong) and it'd make for a more competitive (better) battle.
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the only person i want to see fresco battle that doesn't rap about totin hammers is illmac
Yea I actually meant to say this. I agree completely. Rone would've been another, but obviously they already battled.
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Relatively underwhelming battle unfortunately. Fresco got all 3 IMO. Audio was poor and the "vibe" of the battle was just off. Nina overseas was fucking phenomenal though.

Fresco needs to battle more people that say they also have guns rather than battle people who tell him he doesn't have guns. He needs to do a battle on the URL or in New York/jersey.
Lmaooo i just thought of this... imagine if Fresco battled like a K Shine and K Shine took a "You don't have guns! you aren't a real thug!" angle vs Fresco
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Lmaooo i just thought of this... imagine if Fresco battled like a K Shine and K Shine took a "You don't have guns! you aren't a real thug!" angle vs Fresco
I'm afraid he would, like most
The only person I want to see do a "you don't have guns" angle against Fresco is Qleen
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The only person I want to see do a "you don't have guns" angle against Fresco is Qleen
did you just suggest fresco vs qleen cuz holy shit

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Lmaooo i just thought of this... imagine if Fresco battled like a K Shine and K Shine took a "You don't have guns! you aren't a real thug!" angle vs Fresco
Fresco and gun bars mix about as well as Charron and gun bars for me. If it's concerning a name flip you can get a pass on it once n a while, but imo when you're trying to fall into a niche and hardly fit the profile it comes off as a cheap imitation and a bad 1 in that it's not a parody of itself. Fresco might as well rap about taking your girl shopping before he brings up blammin the blicker. I'm not buyin the hype.
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Fresco and gun bars mix about as well as Charron and gun bars for me. If it's concerning a name flip you can get a pass on it once n a while, but imo when you're trying to fall into a niche and hardly fit the profile it comes off as a cheap imitation and a bad 1 in that it's not a parody of itself. Fresco might as well rap about taking your girl shopping before he brings up blammin the blicker. I'm not buyin the hype.
His delivery doesn't help to you? As of now he has probably one of the coldest deliveries in battle rap, which to me makes it okay in a lot of ways

And before you call it fake, so what? Most battlers with aggression/delivery are forcing it - and fresco does it better than a lot of them
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His delivery doesn't help to you? As of now he has probably one of the coldest deliveries in battle rap, which to me makes it okay in a lot of ways

And before you call it fake, so what? Most battlers with aggression/delivery are forcing it - and fresco does it better than a lot of them
I just get sick of seeing people give fresco a pass for something they scold so many other battlers for doing. His delivery isn't THAT good imo, still pretty effeminate if you ask me.
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Fresco's delivery >>>>

It's not even just about his delivery tho. Fresco has ALWAYS been about gun bars. From the day he started battling. He hasn't switched up on anyone at all. So with his credibility and his recent transformation into the complete battler that he now is, gun bars are believable coming from him. Charron has a shitty delivery and that's why gun bars aren't believable from him. He SOUNDS like a nerd. Fresco sounds like he's about to style on you, but when he gets aggressive, he doesn't sound forced.
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It's not even just about his delivery tho. Fresco has ALWAYS been about gun bars. From the day he started battling. He hasn't switched it up
I think Fresco is phenomenal and currently one of the best out easily, but he definitely hasn't "always" been about gun bars. In his early battles with GT he was calling people gay, saying he'd fuck their mom, etc. he made the transition to gun bars just slightly earlier than some of the other white GT guys so it might seem that way but it's not the case. There were a ton of GT guys doing gun bars while he was still doing gay jokes, but he switched over to gun bars before the well known GT guys did, and was doing them better than most of the GT guys who were already doing them.

Regardless, he now definitely pulls it off better than many who try to, nevermind someone like Charron.
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this shit was cool as hell but I can see why both were a lil uninspired- not much you can really go at em for they pretty much tried every angle they could and the rest is just filler frfr

I think fresco did enough to get the w on the polls, cruger did his thing too but after seeing this Ion think this was as great a matchup as it seemed when this was announced

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The "you don't really have guns like u talk about" angle is so terrible..anybody who plays that angle thinking its creative needs to crawl out of 2009. And you def can't do that shit when the guy in front of u does gun bars better than just about anyone else lmao
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If I wasn't British I'd definitely vote for Fresco, because his rhyme patterns and demeanour are elite level, which is why he gets a gun-talk pass. But because I can comprehended all of Cruger's referances and imagery I was pretty receptive of Cruger's messages and themes. I'm gonna cop out and call it a tie.

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Fresco and gun bars mix about as well as Charron and gun bars for me. If it's concerning a name flip you can get a pass on it once n a while, but imo when you're trying to fall into a niche and hardly fit the profile it comes off as a cheap imitation and a bad 1 in that it's not a parody of itself. Fresco might as well rap about taking your girl shopping before he brings up blammin the blicker. I'm not buyin the hype.
why tho? cuz he's not black? are you implying guns are only for black people to rap about?
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